My girlfriend in Seattle was a Tsimshian Indian. She used to always say to me, "Right's Right and Wrong is Nobody." Two wrongs don't make a right. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.
"Women and Children First" came about because of some brave Irish recruits in the British Army. Neil Oliver has a video out on the story.
The new Irish recruits in the British Army were on a ship going to Capetown, South Africa. Their officer was British. The ship went aground about 1 mile off of the South African coast. There were only enough lifeboats for the women and children.
The ship was surrounded by sharks so swimming to shore was not an option.
The British Lieutenant had his recruits stand in full uniform on deck. They helped the women and children into the lifeboats, but did not save themselves.
As the women and children rowed away, the soldiers sang songs as the ship broke apart and they were drowned and/or eaten by sharks.
A year earlier or so, the same situation happened (no troops on board this ship). The ship floundered and it was every man, woman, and child for himself. Most of the men survived. All of the women and children perished.
After the account of the brave soldiers on the ship that floundered, it became British Navy policy to save the women and children first as they later did on the Titanic.
Brad, The ship was 87 miles from shore. I'm surprised anyone survived the wreck. Still, Kipling wrote a poem about the incident and Naval policy was changed.
I don't think this is at all about equality of anything. They already have the males ready to kill but females can have babies other ways now so they have to get rid of the females too. We just can't have more people being born! We want to reduce the population to save the planet don't you know?
I didn't see any communists in the article, nor any description of nihilism. The people running the U.S. government aren't communists nor nihilists; they're overlording bureacrats/technocrats. They very much believe in hierarchical social order, not in flattening the hierarchy. And they believe in a moral substance, though I question that substance. They're feudal lords controlling the peasantry.
DCR: You said "collectivism" in your comment and then said, "equality of evil is a good." I was responding to your comment, not the article (with which I agree).
My comment wasn't about communism nor nihilism, either ;-)
I'm not one of those people who screams "Nazi" or "Commie" at everything disagreeable. The ebst recent description I heard of it is by Auron ManIntyre: "People say, 'Oh, America is becoming a communist country!' What you mean is, America is becoming more managerial." (from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMPEByjCLHY ).
DSC: Thanks for the link, but it's over an hour long. Please post where in the video link (minutes) the appropriate part is that your are referencing.
In Socialism or Communism, the managers, bureaucrats, apparatchiks, are all the people under the Big Swinging Dicks. The apparatchiks do the dirty work on us.
I read yesterday that the four richest people in the USA have more wealth than the bottom 50% of Americans.
> I read yesterday that the four richest people in the USA have more wealth than the bottom 50% of Americans. How would you describe that situation?
How I would describe it depends on how it developed. A wealthy person who produces something that others are willing to trade for, is very different from a wealthy person who stole from people (including relying on government-granted stealing).
I can tell for certain, though, that such a stark inequality of outcome would NOT be characteristic of an imposed order that attacks inequalities of outcome; at least, not if such an attack on inequalities were genuinely successful.
As for the podcast I linked, start around 27:45 for the exchange about the managerial state. It last about 4 min., before Malice scaffolds on it and brings in the sad #COVIDHoax and how many common folks cheered for insanely low-IQ, low-ethics authoritarianism against whatever they thought the out-group was.
My girlfriend in Seattle was a Tsimshian Indian. She used to always say to me, "Right's Right and Wrong is Nobody." Two wrongs don't make a right. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.
"Women and Children First" came about because of some brave Irish recruits in the British Army. Neil Oliver has a video out on the story.
The new Irish recruits in the British Army were on a ship going to Capetown, South Africa. Their officer was British. The ship went aground about 1 mile off of the South African coast. There were only enough lifeboats for the women and children.
The ship was surrounded by sharks so swimming to shore was not an option.
The British Lieutenant had his recruits stand in full uniform on deck. They helped the women and children into the lifeboats, but did not save themselves.
As the women and children rowed away, the soldiers sang songs as the ship broke apart and they were drowned and/or eaten by sharks.
A year earlier or so, the same situation happened (no troops on board this ship). The ship floundered and it was every man, woman, and child for himself. Most of the men survived. All of the women and children perished.
After the account of the brave soldiers on the ship that floundered, it became British Navy policy to save the women and children first as they later did on the Titanic.
That's a great story, you learn something new everyday.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Birkenhead_(1845)
Brad, The ship was 87 miles from shore. I'm surprised anyone survived the wreck. Still, Kipling wrote a poem about the incident and Naval policy was changed.
I don't think this is at all about equality of anything. They already have the males ready to kill but females can have babies other ways now so they have to get rid of the females too. We just can't have more people being born! We want to reduce the population to save the planet don't you know?
Sadly, I've heard...
In collectivism, equality of evil is a good!
Yep and that's why it's a race to the bottom mentality.
DCS: Communists don't believe in good and evil. They are nihilists.
I didn't see any communists in the article, nor any description of nihilism. The people running the U.S. government aren't communists nor nihilists; they're overlording bureacrats/technocrats. They very much believe in hierarchical social order, not in flattening the hierarchy. And they believe in a moral substance, though I question that substance. They're feudal lords controlling the peasantry.
DCR: You said "collectivism" in your comment and then said, "equality of evil is a good." I was responding to your comment, not the article (with which I agree).
https://search.brave.com/search?q=communist+manifesto+10+points&source=web&summary=1&summary_og=28b5b183293f36d64a5a76
Above is a link to the 10 points of the Communist Manifesto. America has fulfilled many of them wholly or partially.
My comment wasn't about communism nor nihilism, either ;-)
I'm not one of those people who screams "Nazi" or "Commie" at everything disagreeable. The ebst recent description I heard of it is by Auron ManIntyre: "People say, 'Oh, America is becoming a communist country!' What you mean is, America is becoming more managerial." (from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMPEByjCLHY ).
DSC: Thanks for the link, but it's over an hour long. Please post where in the video link (minutes) the appropriate part is that your are referencing.
In Socialism or Communism, the managers, bureaucrats, apparatchiks, are all the people under the Big Swinging Dicks. The apparatchiks do the dirty work on us.
I read yesterday that the four richest people in the USA have more wealth than the bottom 50% of Americans.
How would you describe that situation?
> I read yesterday that the four richest people in the USA have more wealth than the bottom 50% of Americans. How would you describe that situation?
How I would describe it depends on how it developed. A wealthy person who produces something that others are willing to trade for, is very different from a wealthy person who stole from people (including relying on government-granted stealing).
I can tell for certain, though, that such a stark inequality of outcome would NOT be characteristic of an imposed order that attacks inequalities of outcome; at least, not if such an attack on inequalities were genuinely successful.
As for the podcast I linked, start around 27:45 for the exchange about the managerial state. It last about 4 min., before Malice scaffolds on it and brings in the sad #COVIDHoax and how many common folks cheered for insanely low-IQ, low-ethics authoritarianism against whatever they thought the out-group was.